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AnonymousAugust 20, 2015 at 10:33 PM
Weird comments and content (mostly copied from popular blogs and garbled) are continuing to turn up at the new Philosophy Metablog.
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AnonymousAugust 3, 2015 at 6:45 AM
Interesting comments appearing at the weird, new Philosophy Metablog, not sure if it's sockpuppetry but either way it's ... food for thought?
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When I started to teach and write philosophy, I believed in the idea that doing so might really mean something. Now I believe I made a huge mistake.
ReplyDeleteOh no, here we go again....
ReplyDeleteThe PGR is my fav philosophy journal! What's everyone else's?
ReplyDeleteInteresting list of philosophy blogs. Not just insofar as it's incomplete, but also pretty idiosyncratic. And some other major ones not on it. Any thoughts?
ReplyDeleteThanks, I'll add Daily Nous and the Brains Blog. Do you have any other requests?
DeleteI've always found academics really annoying. The way I first started publishing, peer-review was way different from how it is now. Now I can't even get into a top-ranked institution using the methods Leiter wants us to use!
ReplyDeleteSo they say that sexism in the profession is one of our leading problems, well how about elitism? I think I can point to a few people here....
ReplyDeleteI only bring this up in order to test the hypothesis that if we act collectively, we as a profession can become more democratic and give everyone a chance to work at the top 100 departments, if they see fit. I know that when my wife saw me come home after yet another round at the APA smoker, with lines on my face, she erupted into incivility and said '(name redacted)! We have to get jobs so that we can start a family!'. When this happened I knew I had to think seriously about my future in academia, or if I even want to pursue one.
Has anyone else had this experience?
When I came home to your wife after the last Smoker she said the same thing to me, so yeah, it's not just you.
DeleteOoooh! Carrroooou!
DeleteThis is how we used to kill time before I got into Speculative Realism. I'm glad you've seen the light.
If we all pitch in and start a new Smoker I want to sit at the top with a big newspaper cigar sticking out of my head. Will look great on my CV next to all the publications.
No. I hate you as a friend.
DeleteWell aren't you a big boy big boy big boy big! You're so cool and you're so great, why don't you come to my school fete? I love you and I think you, are better than a petting zoo! (Oooh caroooou.)
DeleteI really hated that.
DeleteYou mean this happened to you and you hated it, or you hated the comment, or what? Thanks buddy.
DeleteOh no no no I made a mistake and I understand now. THANK YOU BIG BOY!!! I hated it too and I LOVE YOU and want to see you smile and laugh with me. COME ON BIG BOY, LAUGH WITH ME NOW!!! AAARFFFHHGHGHGH!!!! xo Baby Jeezy
DeleteWell, I still hate you. And I hated the comment.
DeleteOoh, goodie!!! Thank you big boy.XOXOXOX
DeleteYou're not Marvin Martian and you're not friends with Blair Waldorf!
DeleteThank you thank you! But you are, big boy! YOU"RE MARVIN! AND YOU"RE THAT HOT GoDDIP GRRL go get em girl! Big boy, that is.... (oops!)
DeleteNo. I'm not either of those people either. I still hate you.
DeleteI don't hate anyone, but some things make me grumpy. And you remind me of some of those things.
DeleteAlso, the last episode of gossip girl features the utilitarianism vs Kantianism debate. Blair is the only Kantian.
DeleteThat is so cool! What do you think the phenomenology of that and what do you like to say? I would like to see you publish this at a conference. Don't forget to get a good copy editor though! I think metaphysics is on the rise for sure, but I want to eat rice so I get into those referential relations and think Yes! Carnap! Tarski! These are the guys! But now it's all Whitehead, Deleuze.. go home, you know?
DeleteI am in the top ten philosophers on PhilPapers and I just want to say: the whole profession's stupid.
I hated you again for the first few sentences because it actually is cool that Blair was the only Kantian. And for most people, it's a little bit uncomfortable to be the odd one out, so I guess, a-little-bit-uncomfortable is what it was like to be Blair. But then again, Blair is a fictional character, so it probably never was like anything to be her.
DeleteI hate history. Fuck all those guys. Later.
PS: When I was house-hunting, the realtor showed me a home which happened to come with a toilet-bowl adorned with a portrait of David Lewis. So I bought that house, even though it was in a less than desirable neighborhood.
DeleteThanks for this. You raise a lot of points, and I've got to run off to the APA, but super-quickly: Blair is my favourite character because she represents the social mores of our times, and by reflecting that reality, poses a challenge for us to realize it and attain reflective equilibrium.
DeleteRegarding history: yes I do think it's important to have a historical approach. All too often analytic philosophers look at concepts as eternal, immutable absoilutes to be described a priori. I think we should be happy that a more pluralist, interdisciplinary spirit is now emerging. These are exciting times!
Regarding your postscript: yeah, LEWIS IS THE MAN!!! Hahahaha.
Serena is my favorite because she's a slut-shamer-shamer. No double shamer elim as a rule, but in this case, Serena is supposed to be kinda slutty (does it with a lot of people), which is not a bad thing to be at all. But I don't want to hear about any philosophers personal experiences with doing it because none of you look like the Gossip Girl cast (or the Empire cast). And even if you did, I work with you people. Money and explosions are fine. Doing it? Not so much. Keep it to yourselves- even my interlocutor here agrees, I'm sure.
DeleteYou're not wrong, big boy, not wrong.
DeleteNow if I can just find a way to get this dissertation marked before my own students come and say 'Hey! We are going to be published in the top journals, who are you?', then maybe I'll still be in with a chance to be a great Kripke scholar.
No! Stop! Sure, it's our job to know what all these people said, and great if some of their stuff inspires you, but you really need to get off their nuts. The main reason why our profession is so dumb is that everyone's all over names like Kripke or Lewis or Quine or who-the-fuck-ever and as a result, we're super obsessed with hierarchies and social standing and dumb ish like that. People love to blame Leiter for all that, but nobody cares about Leiter anymore, and here you are dropping names. And sure, you can fall back on the fact that this is a place of nonsense and mayhem, and so I'm an idiot for taking anything seriously here. But your mayhem aesthetic celebrates disorder, so I doubt your name-dropping is some sort of intentional attempt at satire. Instead, I think you can't help yourself.
DeleteYou know what? If you did watch Gossip Girl, Blaire probably would be your favorite.
Sorry if I was mean, but all the names made me REALLY mad. I hope the dissertation is an okay read and that the person passes and gets a job.
Hey, I for one DO care about Leiter. He has a lovely face and a great sense of humour. As for big name philosophers - I want the best, and the best stuff is always the big names. Sounds stupid but there it is. I think Saul Kripke could be my father.
DeleteI won't watch Gossip Girl, at least not for a while, as I've got a stack of papers to revise and resubmit before speaking at a Pluralism conference. Looking forward to a nice break!
You're not mean, it's easy to get sick of the privilege in this profession, but an argument's an argument at the end of the day isn't it.
You ended your question with a period, which indicates that it was rhetorical. I know (I think) it was a bestseller, but have you read Black Swan? It explains how becoming a big name is a matter of random chance. And I know that since Leucippus, philosophers have been convincing themselves that there are purposes and mechanisms and goals and stuff, but it's a lot of wishful thinking. I can't tell who I'm talking to now. I thought I knew, but something changed. Well, by guess has changed from a particular person who I know well to a particular person who everyone knows but me. Whatever, we have to complete our information some way.
DeleteI know exactly wat you mean. I have not read Black Swan, but I saw a movie by that name once and it was a bit scary but mostly lovely, beautiful dancing ladies. I think I agree with your interpretation.
DeleteAlso, goal-oriented behaviour is another big issue, as well as goals and the very idea of a telos or purpose to existence. This is something I really like to discuss with my kids.
But yes, we all know and learn more as the weeks roll on, and I am going to be given big payout in June since my book on Kripke is coming out in the Fall.
Wittgenstein once said 'Come on, tell me more about the places and things'. I think I was born to understand that.
I was really drunk when I wrote that last comment. But I do like that book Black Swan- the one about statistics. It's pretty good. And the movie about the ballerinas was pretty good too. But they're neither is based on the other.
DeleteAlso, can I borrow some money?
DeleteOh cool, yeah I think statistical methods stand to make big inroads in philosophy, particularly philosophy of language and metaphysics. It's one thing to sit in the armchair theorizing, but we've also gotta know what the people really want and like to say. If we could do a tie-in with the movie it'd be even better.
DeleteRegarding money, I don't have a lot, and I have no way of getting any to you, so no BB you cannot borrow some money.
Really excited about the new phenomenology reader from Oxford University Press! I can't wait till the paperback comes out. Then I'll buy it!!!! :-)
Yeah, that Phenomenology Reader looks cool. Well, if you like statistics, are a big name, and want to bring philosophy to the people, Black Swan is a pretty good example of a good idea grounded in the history of philosophy, presented in a way that the people care about.
DeleteI totally agree! Really glad you're also pumped about the Reader. I've got four or five pieces in it myself - I can't remember.
DeleteI think that if we realized that philosophy is for everyone, not just smart philosophers, we could get a lot of new voices, especially in phenomenology, and really enrich the profession. If that means watching Black Swan, then let's do it! I'll get the choc-tops!!! Just kidding but you know what I'm getting at (I assume).
In grad school my professors got as far as 'Inclusiveness, good, elitism, bad', but failed to appreciate the radical restructuring of philosophy that this would entail. I think it is our job to carry this through in a way that is not only appealing, but fun.
Stop lying. :(
DeleteWhat do you think I am lying about? And is this Big Boy?
Delete(Just browsing the SEP. Cool stuff!)
Having pieces in the Phenomenology Reader.
DeleteBig Boy how could you. I am so angry I can barely type, and all my thoughts are swimming and racing. I wrote those pieces, and I wrote those pieces, essays really, with great care. The ideas in them were developed in the years following my dissertation and then honed at conferences in Toronto, New York, Canberra and Tel Aviv. My work in this area has been recognized by scholars the world over, and I am due to receive the Schock Prize in 2019. I have only to mention three more things before my case is complete: (j) I started learning about Husserl when I was still in high school, and by the time I was 22 I had published four articles about phenomenology. (ii) When my teachers told me not to do phenomenology but logic instead, I cried and stopped eating until they gave me another chance, and - last but not least - (iii) when I started this blog, I had consultations with leading phenomenologists about the best way of tracking phenomenal experience, and we settled on a hybrid method derived from Levinas and William James (who is in my opinion a phenomenologist through and through).
DeleteI can't believe you would accuse me of this big boy, and I can only believe that something has happened to you or your department. Was it the Gourmet Report? Your PhilPapers profile? Have some of your students complained? I think in the present climate if we can't be honest about these things, we have no hope at all, and this comment is not written lightly.
Given my gender preferences, I am not able to identify as human. My children will tell me 'Zif, who will take us to school?' and I have to cry and sleep and stop eating for them even to behave properly while I'm talking to my students. I am literally at my wit's end.
Let's forget about the Reader and celebrate our hard-won diversity. I know I will.
Lies, lies! Why do you call me 'big boy'?
DeleteTO be honest big boy it is because you were so rude to me to begin with and this was a way for me to defend myself in the present climate.
DeleteI appreciate your concerns and will conduct a session with my mentors and students where we work through the relevant claims. Thanks so much for pushing me on this issue; you truly are a nice big red boy.
Lol: Red.
DeleteLaughing laughing laughing! That's so good, look how far we've come! xo
DeleteI was reading Mr. Zero's comments about publishing again yesterday and I thought 'Wow, why doesn't this guy have a tenure-track job at a top instutition?'. It was then that someone pointed out to me that he has since been tenured. I want to extend my congratulations to Mr. Zero, and explore a further issue with hiring and tenure committees.
ReplyDeleteI feel that when we are asked to provide surveys and teaching evaluations, this is like telling a student to take a picture of you and then draw what is on the picture, and handing the drawing to the department. We might as well have to sit with Brian Leiter.
If my experiences are normal, then lots of other folks here will have more than one great publication but still no job. They may say this sort of talk is entitled and whiney, but hey, that's what we're here for. Now it's true that not all of us have had the same opportunities, but when my course load is as heavy as it is now, and I've got refereeing duties, research and committees to think about, someone could maybe tell me I don't also have to worry about the climate in the profession today. Well, that would be nice, but we can't all be Hilary Putnam.
WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE A BASEBALL BAT IN PHILOSOPHY
ReplyDeleteAfter six years on the job market, nine articles in top journals, forty nine conference presentations and a shit-ton of money spent on flyouts and suits, I now have a job!!! Thanks guys.
ReplyDeleteThanks you officially won the metablog internet prize for best comment. Now can I have my blogroll back?
DeleteGet your big mumu on it's time for the Top Ten Articles in Philosophy. I won't see you there if you're a woman. Patriarchy much?
Delete'Chip chip chip and you're out' is what my uncle, a respected anthropologist, always said with respect to tenure-track jobs. I got a fly out last Fall and made it to the top five only to fail because I didn't have any publications in the big three. I wish I could have gone to Harvard and had a big sauce roll for my big lunch EVERY DAY
ReplyDeleteWhy does this blog look like a Tea Party/Republican LSD wet-dream?
ReplyDeleteThat's a beautiful question! I would like to know as well, I'm freaking out here!
DeleteWell -I'm- here to talk about issues in the profession here, I don't a know about you guys... elitism, sexism, bad ranking systems, journals which function like clubs... LET"S OPEN UP A DIALOGUE AND MAKE THIS PHILOSOPHY METABLOG GREAT AGAIN!!! Hell, we may even make some changes to the profession
ReplyDeleteBig question in navigating the academic, particularly the philosophical, job market: are you going to suceed or not? My wife and I came up against this last year when we flew our kids out to public schools while trying to get into the Leiterrific top 100. Three publications and nine student evaluations later, we have finally got tenure. Thank God.
ReplyDeleteI just got the news that I will be giving a lecture in Istanbul the following morning. I only hope I can check my privilege at the door. I am humbled to be part of this delegation, which will explain Gettier's famous counterexample (published in Mind) to the claim that knowledge is justified true belief. All the people who see me there will see my new hair and my new diagrams! I've been working on this stuff for a while with a couple of paraconsistent logicians in Paris, so I'm really keen to hear what you guys have to say about it. Come see us on Facebook and after the talk. Lots of love, You Know Who.
ReplyDeleteI think this is a good system a good belief system and something I could learn in my spare time: analytic philosophy. (i) it tells us what numbers are and which numbers there are (ii) human freedom, and (iii) everything in between. And if you just believe that through clear argumentation we can get this message out to more people, then maybe you can start to see some of what we're talking about here in analytic philosophy!
ReplyDeleteI wish I could believe what you are saying here but unfortunately I am not in a position to enter into that sort of debate. If you give me a trolley and a switch on the other hand, I'm your man. Applied ethics baby! Real life is simple: just do what you do, and everything will come to you. My old professor used to say this to me while he handed out grades and hall-passes to the other students: get into that stuff, you will learn a lot. And since then, you know what? I have. I have always looked to philosophy to be the best thing for me and it has always come through, from Heraclitus through to Plato through to Boethius, Kant, Schopenhauer, Wittgenstein, and later on we now have Alain de Botton and Alain Badiou, and not to mention the great minds of Nelly Furtado and Steven Hawking, although they're not philosophers per se; I just like their style.
DeleteMmm! Really nice points, thanks guys! :^)
ReplyDeleteI said to my supervisor this week: here are my ideas, here I am, here we are! We've both been published in the top journals, so let's stop relating to each other like student and teacher and start to get something REAL happening you know? This was before I started work on my Philosophy Compass article.
ReplyDeleteThen, I'm putting my name in all the APA forms with 'Dr' because I know I'm going to have a PhD soon and he (yeah, he's a guy - obviously!) says 'Hey! You can't do that, you're not a doctor! *I'm* a doctor and I'm your supervisor!'. I'd like to see how the profession may be able to grow to handle this, but hey, I'm not about to hold my breath!
I REALLY LIKE THIS DIALECTIC IF ONLY MORE PEOPLE COULD SEE PAST OUR PAROCHIAL PREOCCUPATION WITH KANT AND OTHER WESTERN PHILOSOPHERS
ReplyDeleteThanks guys for all the comments! Really interested to hear more about phenomenology, that stuff sounds really interesting. I don't know about you guys but when I first read Husserl it was Logical Investigations and I thought 'Huh! This guy is both an Analytic and a Continental philosopher! This is pretty cool!'. So I think we could both use a lot more of that.
ReplyDeleteMoving onto blogrolls, please guys add us to your blogrolls and stop being blog-trolls haha!
To apply the theory of definite desciptions, there is the best, and if anything is the best it is identical to you guys!!!!!
i can only imagine what it feels like to have been on a tenure committee while trying to edit an anthology and trying to maintain a 4 - 4 teaching load. this is why i have decided to put all my data on philpapers.org, so that people can see what i am doing and who i am in this situation. my latest work on bioethics explores the body and the places we have in relation to our bodies. this sort of embodied cognition is the great payload for modern philosophy of mind, the big game-changer. by writing and publishing on this i have gotten into a very good position indeed, and if i obtain a tenure track position in the next six months, then maybe my kids can go to that good school out of town after all!
ReplyDeleteThere's a super cool new resource put together by Brian Leiter and the good folks over at Feminist Philosophers. It's called Get MY Points, and it's a way for philosophers to list out all the points they will be making in their upcoming talks and papers, just to give people that all-important heads up which might make the difference between a lacklustre reception and one of, let's just say another kind. Got the point? Get Get MY Points!
ReplyDeleteI really like this initiative and think more people need to start thinking about tenure. My mom started teaching me set theory because she's an unapologetically smart women from a time when these were few and far between. We taught maths together in Massechusetts in the spring and then came out to Oregon where we run a small school teaching maths and practical skills like gardening, even just walking and running better.
ReplyDeleteAs a longtime devotee of contemporary analytic metaphysics, I can say that I would like to see Jason Stanley and Cian Dorr challenge Ted Sider to a raw discussion about how Stephen Yablo might be introduced to Carrie Jenkins. Obviously Brian Leiter is someone we can trust to react well to this. I think David Chalmers might be able to investigate, and then if we find a place in our hearts for Kris McDaniel and Kit Fine, a conference could be started where we tell them all about Huw Price. I need something to do with my life. I've had kids and now I want to go to conferences.
In my spare time I have been writing a textbook on academic genealogy, so I know that detailed data and the cooperation of the above-mentioned philosophers would be something worth trying to get on side. I think this could be achieved if I publish in three top ten journals in the next five years. Here goes nothing!
What's really weird is you decorate it with money. I don't get that. How come you decorate it with money? It's weird and I don't get it but somehow at the same time it's just exactly right. A paradox. This is applied logic.
ReplyDeleteThanks very much!!! A lot of intellectuals have problems with money but I think it's just beautiful to look at. This is my favourite blog at the moment and I think it's beautiful too.
DeleteWe have serious problems on the adjunct market. No one is going to tell me that after my fifth flyout, with nine publications to my name, I shouldn't be bitter. I told Mr. Zero and he agreed: we have to push for a more embodied framework.
Hush. I still hate you.
DeleteOoooooooooh! Carooooouuuu!
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